The tunes (I think we've got 'em all...)

Caoimhín Ó Raghallaigh - Kitty Lie Over
Una Monaghan - Nana Nora's and The Clean Player

Jason Rouse - The Famous Ballymote / Scotch Mary
Emma Lewis - Dwyer's Jig / O'Sullivan's March / untitled jig
Joanie Madden - The Cat's Meow
Rita Farrell - The Happy Days of Youth and Colonel Rodgers' (often known as McKenna's 1 & 2)
Daithí Gormley - Last Night's Fun
James Keane - tunes to bring his father back for a visit - Tom Ward's Downfall, Farewell to Erin (from the playing of Paddy O'Brien) and Dillon's Fancy

Tara Howley - The Legacy/Paidín Ó Raifeartaigh
Sean Lally - The May Morning Dew / Humours of Ballyloughlin
Cathy Custy - A Jig and the Cliffs of Moher
Hajime Takahashi - Unnamed Tune
Catherine McEvoy - Bánchnoic Éireann Ó

Ciaran Kelly - The Showman's Fancy and The Galway Hornpipe.
Cameron Mather - Fergal O’Gara’s / The Bag of Spuds / The Boys of ‘45
Áine Tyrrell - In This House
Sean Mathews - Welcome to Ballsgrove
Liam Thomas Bailey - The Broken Parts + The Maids of Mitchelstown
Eoghan Ó Ceannabháin - The Deepest Breath

Rita Farrell - The Drunken Gauger / The Humours of Ballingarry / The Girl From the Big House
Tola Custy - Love at the Ending
and
Tola Custy with Ado Barker - The Broken Pledge/The Porthole of the Kelp/Jenny's Welcome to Charlie

Our heartfelt thanks go outto everyone who's supported the podcast over the past year with emails, chats, words of encouragement and suggestions. And to the musicians.

Seriously - without you all, we wouldn't be doing this. All the best from us to you for 2021. Hang in there.

Love

Darren and Dom

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'A good reel would wipe the cobwebs off his heart.' Last Night's Fun and Joe Cooley, a -kick-you-in-the-chest-kind-of-accordion-player.' Looking for the ghosts of James Morrison and Michael Coleman on the streets of New York City. Translating the music of the fiddle into the language of the box. A grandmother's recordings a treasure trove for the aspiring Daithí Gormley and the chancey nature of recording in the studio.

'There's only one trick to becoming a great musician - you figure out what you're not able to do, and don't do it.' Finbarr Dwyer's advice to Daithí.

Daithí's album with Catherine McHugh is
‘Fiddling without a Bow – Irish Traditional Music on Button Accordion’
https://daithigormley.bandcamp.com/

And his book 'Fiddlers of Sligo Tunebook' compiled with Oisin Mac Diarmada, is available here:
https://custysmusic.com/search?q=Daith%C3%AD+gormley&type=product

The tunes Daithí plays:

Last Night's Fun
The Templehouse Reel and an unnamed reel, from the playing of Michael Joe and Larry MacDonagh
The Spike Island Lasses and Farewell to Leitrim
Tell Her I Am and Tatter Jack Walsh
My Love is Fair and Handsome followed by The Maid of Mount Cisco (composed by Paddy Killoran)

And finally - it's hard to do justice to Ciaran Carson's last collection of poems, which we mention during the chat,
'Still Life.' It's shot through with sorrow and love, and a savouring of the last of life.
https://www.gallerypress.com/product/still-life/

Ciaran Carson also wrote what many regard as the best book on Irish music yet written, 'Last Night's Fun.' Which happens to be the name of the tune with which Daithí began todays episode, talking about the legendary Joe Cooley. Thank you, Daithí.

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If you'd like to check it out, this is Craig Ferguson's 2010 monologue on Brittney Spears and addiction that Darren mentions. It's powerful, and worth the watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=7ZVWIELHQQY&feature=emb_logo

To see some of the Irish Music Legends work go here:
instagram.com/irishmusiclegends/
facebook.com/irishmusiclegends

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Hailing from North Carolina and now residing in North Michigan, Hannah Harris is a wonderful fiddle player and ethnomusicologist. Hannah recently recorded her first album which hopefully will be released in the coming weeks.

In this episode Hannah plays:

Alice's Reel / Maudabawn Chapel
Citi na gCumman
The Blarney Castle Hotel Set (If someone knows the names please send them in thanks)
John Brosnan's Reel / Martin Wynne's No 2
Sunday's Well

To keep up to date and follow Hannah go here:
https://www.facebook.com/hannahharrisceol

To follow Hannah on Instragram go here:
https://www.instagram.com/hannahharrisceol/

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Right that's it, enjoy!
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https://www.mickeymichelle.com/bone-health.html

And so. The Harp.

When I was at Uni my mates used to laugh at the fact that my passport had 'the Guinness symbol' on the front cover. I'd never really given it much thought up until then, the fact that the passport and the extra stout shared the same symbol. What was the actual mechanism by which the image of a harp ended up on the Irish passport, I wonder? Who decided? There must have been a committee. And given the tendency for committees to be agonizing and infuriating, and given the tendency for Irish republicans to disagree amongst themselves from time to time, I'm sure the decision wasn't arrived at easily. Come to think of it, humans in general have a great talent for separating themselves into different sects over pointless passions. I mean, I worked in a place once where there was a long running and spectacularly ill-tempered series of arguments about whether there should be an electric kettle in the new tearoom that people could switch on 'as and when' they need to make a cup of tea, or one of those giant shiny urns that keeps the water at a constant temperature of 3000 degrees so you can scald yourself instantly without having to wait for a minute and a half. So it'd be no surprise if deciding on the harp was a cause of angst in the early days of the Republic.

I looked it up in these antique things I have in my house called reference books, like an intellectual might do. But there was nothing there so I googled it and found this piece from The Irish Post, written by Mary Louise O'Donnell:

https://www.irishpost.com/life-style/history-irish-harp-symbol-ireland-57038

Giraldus Cambrensis how are ye!

And then there's Turlough O'Carolan. He was blind, a traveling harper and composed a whole rake (I just realized I don't know how to spell that word right) of tunes that are really quite strange to my ear. They have a European feel to them in places, quite elaborately ornamented, and as I think about it now there were two of his tunes I learned to play early on: Sí Bheag, Sí Mhór (The Little Fairy Hill and The Big Fairy Hill) and Fanny Power (emphasis on the second word.)

I mentioned Alan Stivell's 'Renaissance of the Celtic Harp' in our chat with Michelle and Mickey. It's one of those records that has the power to pull me back, in what feels like an almost physical experience, back to my youth. (I know, I know, I say that every week, but it's true, that really does happen to me every week, more than one time...it's a wonder I can get out of my scratcher at all some days...)

Anyway, the image I have of that album is of a cover with some sort of seascape on the front, kind of ghostly and weirdly Celtic-y, even though at that time I had no idea what that was even about, and still don't really. There were only five tracks on it and one of them took up the whole of Side 2 and had pretty much every 'trad' instrument I'd ever heard of crammed into it, and several I hadn't. And there was another track called 'Ys' that had sea sounds and whistles and a sort of ambient feel to it. It was weird, man.

I was introduced to that record by a radical priest who had arrived in our town. When I say radical, I mean he had long hair and a beard and a dog, and talked like a normal human being. And he told me there was this cool thing called General Absolution that meant you didn't have to actually go to confession, you could just have forgiveness bestowed upon you, kind of like having the holy water scattered on you at Easter but without you actually having to show up. He was great. He lent me Van Morrison's 'It's Too Late To Stop Now' (which I still have), 'Meddle' by Pink Floyd, Leonard Cohen's 'Songs From a Room' and loads of other music that was a lot more interesting to me at the time than the Celtic harp.

And yet, true story, diving once again through the boundless depths of Spotify one day looking for stuff to send to Darren, what did I find but that very album. And when I listened to the first few seconds of 'Ys,' with the waves and the opening notes and the harmonics, I was, like I say, pulled back towards my youth. That album was released in 1971 and even today it sounds pretty out there. Even when you're not stoned out of your gourd. You should give it a listen sometime.

On the way back from the interview with Mickey and Michelle, Darren and me were wondering how people so young have such confidence. Then we realized it's probably at least in part because they're ridiculously talented, and that's kind of lovely to witness. And truth be told, I think we were both a tiny wee bit jealous at the excitement and enthusiasm and joy they have for what's ahead of them - the music and the work and the travel. As a couple of cynics, we found it pretty inspiring.

Michelle, Mickey, thanks for the chat, and for the chance to listen to you play.

Michelle and Mickey's website and socials are here:
www.mickeymichelle.com
www.instagram.com/mickeyandmichelle
www.facebook.com/mickeymichellemusic

Also the Pozible crowdfunding campaign for their debut album finishes on Wednesday the 18th at 8pm. And here's the link for that: https://www.pozible.com/profile/michael-odonnell-3

Enjoy!
Darren & Dom

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Thanks again to Beth for taking the time to sit down with us. Also thanks to Declan Simpson for the accompaniment, maybe next time you'll join us in the hot seat?

The session Beth mentions is on in the Drunken Poet on Friday evenings. You can find out more about that here: https://www.facebook.com/drunkenpoetmusic/

Finally, thanks again to Una McAlinden for the chance to record on location at the National Celtic Festival.

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To follow Daoirí, and more importantly, to buy his CDs, you can find him here:
http://daoiri.com/
https://www.facebook.com/DaoiriFarrell/

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Where do you start? Maybe the obvious place, the place I first came across his music thanks to a tip from my good mate from Ballycastle, Alex Campbell: his version of The Creggan White Hare. This is the song me and Darren refer to in our intro, a song which at the time of writing has a meagre 1,287,874 views on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPI_tHNjS78

I first heard The Creggan White Hare on the Dick Gaughan / Andy Irvine album 'Parallel Lines.' Which, to be honest, is an album I've never loved. I mean, what's not to love about a collaboration like that? I love Andy Irvine's music, I love Dick Gaughan's music. It should be my all time favourite. And yet, somehow it doesn't quite work for me. Though it does have a very stately version of Dylan's 'My Back Pages.'

There's something about Daoirí's version of 'The Creggan White Hare' that I prefer. It's more robust, or something. I mean, it's unstoppable. That's what it is. It has a sense of fate about it. It's existential, man.

As for The Pursuit of Farmer Michael Hayes...you can find it on the Planxty album After The Break.There's some interesting info here about possible origins:

https://mainlynorfolk.info/folk/songs/thepursuitoffarmermichaelhayes.html

We also chat at the end of our interview about 'Christy Moore, Donal Lunny, Jimmy Faulkner, Live In Dublin' - an album I first heard thanks, also, to my pal Alex Campbell. I can remember the cover of that album so clearly, and trying to decipher the newsprint while sitting on Alex's bed. We'd listen over and over again, trying to learn the chords of 'Hey Sandy,' until his mum took pity on us and arrived up with a plate of ham sandwiches and mugs of tea. God love her, she had the patience of a saint. Anyway, it's another album that's worth hunting down if you've not heard it already.

https://www.discogs.com/Christy-Moore-Donal-Lunny-Jimmy-Faulkner-Live-In-Dublin/release/2219545

Thanks again Daoirí.

The Moving Bogs/Sydney Bogs
(please correct me if this is wrong)
Lough Erne Shore
The Nightingale
The Mist Covered Mountains/The Gallowglass Jig
Stór Mo Chroí

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So it won't be a surprise to anybody who's listened to a few episodes already that my first acquaintance with Lough Erne Shore, which Maggie Kate sings in Episode 5 of The Blarney Pilgrims Podcast, was via the Paul Brady and Andy Irvine Purple Album...worth a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UiBO1MT65g

And here is a great song Maggie performs with John Carty (her dad) and Francis Gaffney:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzLKI9B67-M

The Mist Covered Mountains, which Maggie plays, got me all nostalgic for Scotland as I was listening to her. And bagpipes. So many bagpipes at the National Celtic Festival Australia Official, some of which you can hear floating on the breeze behind Maggie as she's chatting with us on a sunny Saturday morning. And which put me in mind of other sunny Saturday mornings in Stirling, Scotland, when I worked in a wine and whiskey store and would hear two competing pipers busking from either end of the same street. A very interesting phenomenon, the effects of competing bagpipe music floating on the breeze on one's psyche...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n72XebBaMeI

Louis MacNeice's poem Bagpipe Music (what an accent that guy had - you'd hardly guess he was born in Carrickfergus.) Louis worked for a long time at the BBC, and is fondly remembered by Andy Irvine, who knew him from drinking in The George in London, before he (Andy) found his way to Ireland...

https://www.andyirvine.com/bio/chapter1.html

Maybe everything, always, eventually comes back around to...you know...Andy Irvine.

Louise Mulcahy, one of the Mulcahy sisters who Maggie cites as an influence:

https://www.facebook.com/louise.mulcahy.330/

And a fascinating clip of (I think) Bryan Rooney - the Godfather:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EopvuL9T8W4

One last note, Maggie was chatting about the London Irish music scene...I'm trying to track down an old BBC Radio 4 docco about just that, so hopefully in the next few weeks we'll be able to share it with you.

Seriously - has a banjo ever sounded so good? Thank you Maggie Kate for a lovely Saturday morning.

You can buy Maggie's CDs here:
johncartymusic.com/music.asp
(BTW, CDs are on sale for €10 with free postage to anywhere in the world for the month of July.)

And you can follow her here:
www.facebook.com/maggie.carty.3
www.instagram.com/maggiekatemusic/

I (Darren) would like to say a massive thank you to Jim Patton, who, after listening to the episode got in contact with me via Facebook to let me know some more info about Maggie's banjo. So, for those of you interested in such things, here are the deets. It is a Jim Patton Banjo. The tone ring is made from 3/8" square brass tube rolled to fit the rim. And the wood is American black walnut. It's a beautiful banjo!

You can contact Jim here: https://www.jpbanjos.co.uk/
And you can follow him here: https://www.facebook.com/jim.patton.946

Thanks again to Una McAlinden for having us at the National Celtic Festival and to everyone that came along to watch and support.

Also a HUGE thank you to Dave At Screenwave for becoming a Patreon. You're some sound man Dave!

If you want to be sound like Dave, please head over here and shout us a pint - you know we're worth it - www.patreon.com/blarneypilgrims

Recorded live at the National Celtic Festival in Portarlington, two of Irelands greatest traditional players share their love of the music, teaching and the art of listening.

Joining Mary and Eileen on guitar is previous guest of the show, Gerry Mc Keague. Gerry, actually just came along to listen but when asked by Mary and Eileen to join in, he jumped at the chance. What a legend.

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Mary and Eileen played a selection of tunes, a couple of which we didn't catch the names of. I mean, it was a festival weekend after all...

So the first set of tunes we don't have names for.

Eileen lilts, The Wise Maid.

Geaghan's and Dan Breen's

Third set: The Coming of Spring and The Battering Ram

And the last set is Joe Bane's and The Green Gowned Lass

Links and extras:

Thoughts on the origins of East Clare music:
http://www.marymacnamara.net/marys_view.html

Here's a great selection of tunes played by Eileen O'Brien's father, Paddy O'Brien.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqOdBdSNl0A&t=125s

From 1981, here's Mary MacNamara and Martin Hayes playing John Nauyghton's Reel and Tommy Coen's Reel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F1_0r8a0Og

Also if you'd like to know more about Eileen's father, there's a great resourse here: http://www.paddyobrienbook.com/?fbclid=IwAR3OkdxcYh3E1y3hd8bSPTfLlz614CtP0tDRkY5m7V8XjHLbTy6lcdOLMa0

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Thanks so much to Mary, Eileen and Gerry for your time. We absolutely loved this chat.

Also, a big thank you to Una McAlinden and the National Celtic Festival Australia Official for all your support and inviting us to record at your amazing festival.

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You can find Mary here:
http://www.marymacnamara.net/
https://www.facebook.com/mary.macnamara.376

And you can find Eileen here:
https://www.facebook.com/eileen.obrien.165

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As mentioned in the interview, Jamie is one of the performers in The Good Girl Song Project - you can find it here: http://thegoodgirlsongproject.com/

In this episode Jamie plays:

Newry Town (Traditional)

The Curragh of Kildare (Traditional)

Matty (Wally Page)

Two Junior Crehan tunes

Down The Hall on a Saturday Night (Ken McMaster)

Untitled jig

I, me, (Dominic), refer in the interview to the story J. M Synge related in the preface to Playboy of the Western World, which I sort of half remembered:

"When I was writing The Shadow of the Glen some years ago I got more aid than any learning could have given me from a chink in the floor of the old Wicklow house where I was staying, that let me hear what was being said by the servant girls in the kitchen."

I also seem to remember reading something by Colm Toibin in 'New Ways to Kill Your Mother' that the story was sort of...em...not true. But don't quote me on that. It's a pretty great book though - essays on Irish writers and their relationship with their mothers, Ireland and each other. There's a review of the book here:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/feb/26/ways-kill-your-mother-colm-toibin-review

Oddly enough, you'll see in this review, too, a reference to Blake Bailey’s biography of American writer John Cheever. Have to say, it’s a cracking book, even if you don't like biographies. It's a cracker. Grim, funny, horrible, fascinating. So. Yeah...fab.

For more information on the New Zealand Wars check out Te Ara,
The Encyclopedia of New Zealand:

https://teara.govt.nz/en/new-zealand-wars

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Special Guest: Jamie Molloy.

In this episode Gerry plays the following songs:

Fisherman's Day
(Written by Brian Connors)

Slieve Gallion Braes
(Traditional)

Voyage for Ireland
(Pierre Bensusan)

Shipyard Slips
(David Wilde of The Men of No Property)

Pride of the Springfield Road
(Traditional)

The Boston Burglar
(Traditional)

You can catch Gerry and his sister Mary live as “Innisfayle” at the National Celtic Festival on the weekend of the 7th - 10th June:

https://www.nationalcelticfestival.com/artists-2019/2019/2/19/gerry-amp-mary-mckeague

Thanks to the players and staff at The Last Jar for the jig we use at the opening and closing of the podcast.

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Special Guest: Gerry McKeague.

The Andy Irvine song Corinn talks about is this one, I think: 'Billy Far Out'
https://andyirvinelyrics.wordpress.com/2014/02/12/billy-far-out/

We also talk about the song 'O'Donoghues' which is a bloody brilliant chronicling a time and place. When I listen to this it sort of tugs at something in me to do with the optimism of youth, and dreams of a future in music, and stuff like that. Fits pretty sweetly with Corinn's story of chatting with Andy on the train.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3swQZ_avLX0

And a great interview, Andy Irvine talking to The Second Captains, my favorite sports podcast that ventures into other areas from time to time. From October 2018.
https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2018/1021/1005709-andy-irvine-profile-folk-awards/

Corinn mentions her friend, flute maker and musician Michael Grinter, who died tragically at the end of 2018. You can find more information about his life and work at his website, here:
https://www.grinterflutes.com/

Special thanks to the Last Jar in Melbourne for helping us out with space to record in and chairs to sit on.

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Special Guest: Corinn Strating.